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	<title>Comments on: REEL Musings: Are Judd Apatow comedies getting old?</title>
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		<title>By: theREELaddict</title>
		<link>http://thereeladdict.com/reel-musings-are-judd-apatow-comedies-getting-old/#comment-1309</link>
		<dc:creator>theREELaddict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You raise a good point, Denny. After all, in many ways comedy - and comedians - are dependant on finding their niche (as you put it) and sticking to it. They do call it a "comedy routine" after all. I guess my issue is that with time such routines can get old, and it may be needed to get a new act that doesn't change how you say things, but things you are saying, epsecially in the case of Apatow, where it's not just him, but all his proteges (Segel, Rogen) who are also using his routine at the same time. 

You're point about the harshness of audience expectations and also the success of predictability and meeting audience expectations was a good. After all, people still turn out for romantic comedies, which more or less follow the same plot structure every time, and if they don't get that happy ending, they get pissed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining yet about Apatow. I mean the very reason I was excited about Sarah Marshall to begin with was becuse I wanted to see an Apatow comedy. I just worry (and mourn) that one day that might go away if we get too many of them. 

P.S.: I think that lily-pad jumping poisonous frog analogy is the greatest thing I've ever heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You raise a good point, Denny. After all, in many ways comedy - and comedians - are dependant on finding their niche (as you put it) and sticking to it. They do call it a &#8220;comedy routine&#8221; after all. I guess my issue is that with time such routines can get old, and it may be needed to get a new act that doesn&#8217;t change how you say things, but things you are saying, epsecially in the case of Apatow, where it&#8217;s not just him, but all his proteges (Segel, Rogen) who are also using his routine at the same time. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re point about the harshness of audience expectations and also the success of predictability and meeting audience expectations was a good. After all, people still turn out for romantic comedies, which more or less follow the same plot structure every time, and if they don&#8217;t get that happy ending, they get pissed. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m not complaining yet about Apatow. I mean the very reason I was excited about Sarah Marshall to begin with was becuse I wanted to see an Apatow comedy. I just worry (and mourn) that one day that might go away if we get too many of them. </p>
<p>P.S.: I think that lily-pad jumping poisonous frog analogy is the greatest thing I&#8217;ve ever heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Denny</title>
		<link>http://thereeladdict.com/reel-musings-are-judd-apatow-comedies-getting-old/#comment-1268</link>
		<dc:creator>Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would Laurel and Hardy be Laurel and Hardy if they didn't always play Laurel and Hardy?

I guess there's something to be said for finding your niche and sticking to it.  After all, the audience is still laughing its butts off, as you said, and I think we all know that we don't expect the Apatow movies to be gut-wrenching thrillers with Shyamalan-trademark twist endings.

Writers can't win - too much repetition and people complain that they're one-trick ponies; too much stylistic lily-pad-jumping and they become multi-coloured poisonous frogs that are nice to look at but that we wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole.

Predictability and meeting the audience's expectation in almost any art form have proven to be formulas for success.  Vonnegut's novels all have the same basic themes, and many fans of his (myself included) feel at some level that if you've read one or two of his books you've read them all.  This doesn't mean his whole catalogue is devalued - in fact, its integrity is further cemented in the overall canon by having clear and concise messages and themes that connect each work.  

So are all of Apatow's movies the same? Probably.  Would we have it any other way?  Probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would Laurel and Hardy be Laurel and Hardy if they didn&#8217;t always play Laurel and Hardy?</p>
<p>I guess there&#8217;s something to be said for finding your niche and sticking to it.  After all, the audience is still laughing its butts off, as you said, and I think we all know that we don&#8217;t expect the Apatow movies to be gut-wrenching thrillers with Shyamalan-trademark twist endings.</p>
<p>Writers can&#8217;t win - too much repetition and people complain that they&#8217;re one-trick ponies; too much stylistic lily-pad-jumping and they become multi-coloured poisonous frogs that are nice to look at but that we wouldn&#8217;t touch with a 10-foot pole.</p>
<p>Predictability and meeting the audience&#8217;s expectation in almost any art form have proven to be formulas for success.  Vonnegut&#8217;s novels all have the same basic themes, and many fans of his (myself included) feel at some level that if you&#8217;ve read one or two of his books you&#8217;ve read them all.  This doesn&#8217;t mean his whole catalogue is devalued - in fact, its integrity is further cemented in the overall canon by having clear and concise messages and themes that connect each work.  </p>
<p>So are all of Apatow&#8217;s movies the same? Probably.  Would we have it any other way?  Probably not.</p>
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